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Part 2: Klein, Winnicott and Bion: Clinical Convergence and Theoretical Differences  |  View Full Calendar

Presented by Joseph Aguayo, Ph.D., & John Lundgren, M.D.


Thursday, April 13, 2017, 8 - 10 PM

Part 2:  Reconsidering the Contributions of Bion and Winnicott in the Context of the London Group

Dr. Joseph Aguayo discusses this recent paper, now in submission to The International Journal of Psychoanalysis.  The theoretical, clinical and small-group rivalries and animosities between independents such as Winnicott and Kleinians like Bion continued into the 1960s.  An argument is made that the insularity of the London Klein group now precluded public dialogue with members of groups whose views differed from theirs.  New evidence from The Collected Works of D.W. Winnicott (Oxford Univ. Press, 2016) is offered that makes a case for how persistent Winnicott was during the 1950s and 60s in his attempts to entreat various members of the London Klein group to dialogue with him about their differences.  One area of intense disagreement was around the role and definition of countertransference, and involved groundbreaking papers by both Winnicott and Paula Heimann on this subject.


Particular attention is given to aspects of Winnicott’s ‘Kleinian Development’ lecture (1962) which differ from his account published in 1965.  It is curious in light of how acquainted both Bion and Winnicott were with each other’s work that they published next to nothing about their varying approaches, especially during the time that they virtually alternated between being Presidents of the British Psychoanalytic Society between 1956 and 1968.  One riveting example of their intense differences will be discussed, namely Winnicott’s reaction to a 1964 Kleinian presentation on Bion’s epistemological monograph, Learning from Experience (1962). The Q & A portion will be moderated by Dr. John Lundgren.


Learning Objectives

As a result of attending this session, participants should be able to:

·   Describe how Bion and Winnicott continued the rivalry and theoretical antagonisms of the Klein group and Independents during the 1960s in London

·   Explain how Bion and Winnicott discussed their theoretical and clinical differences in non-public forums 

·   Identify some of the differences in their models of the infant’s mind based on different methodological considerations—the difference between the Kleinian ‘internal infant’ vis-à-vis Winnicott’s observed infant with its maternal caretaker


Joseph Aguayo, Ph.D., is a Training and Supervising Analyst at the Psychoanalytic Center of California and is in private practice in West Los Angeles. He is also a Guest Member of the British Psychoanalytical Society in London.  He merges his clinical and research interests by numerous publications in the International Journal of Psychoanalysis on the clinical history of Kleinian and Bionian psychoanalysis.  His forthcoming book, Bion in Buenos Aires: Seminars and Supervision, is a co-edited project with Lia Pistiner de Cortinas and Agnes Regeczkey that will be formally launched at this summer’s IPA Congress in Buenos Aires. 


John Lundgren, M.D., is a Training and Supervising Analyst at the Psychoanalytic Center of California and an Associate Clinical Professor of Psychiatry at the UCLA School of Medicine.  He formerly served as Co-Director of the Tavistock Group Relations training program at the UCLA Department of Psychiatry. He is a member of the A.K. Rice Institute for the Study of Social Systems and its West Coast affiliate, GREX. He serves as a consultant to Tavistock Group Relations conferences and is presently exploring the integration of this training model with psychoanalytic training. He is in private practice of psychoanalysis in Beverly Hills, CA.


Program coordinators: Joseph Aguayo, Ph.D., John Lundgren, M.D., and David James Fisher, Ph.D. 


Three Thursdays: March 23, April 13 and April 20, 2017, 8 PM-10 PM  

*6 CE credits offered ( 2 CE credits for each lecture)

$150 is the flat fee for this package of three presentations


Target Audience: Clinicians, interns, students, and scholars with an interest in psychoanalysis


Location: NCP Auditorium, 2014 Sawtelle Blvd., Los Angeles, CA 90025

Pre-registration is required and is on a first come, first served basis. 

Registration begins on January 20 and must be completed online at:


How to obtain lecture paper:

Once registrants are officially enrolled with RegPack, they can email Joseph Aguayo, Ph.D., at and request a copy of his Winnicott and Bion paper.  This is the only paper that will be emailed for this series of presentations. 




IMPORTANT DISCLOSURE INFORMATION FOR ALL LEARNERS: None of the planners and presenters of these CME/CE programs have any relevant financial relationships to disclose.



These activities have been planned and implemented in accordance with the Essential Areas and policies of the Accreditation Council for Continuing Medical Education (ACCME) through the joint sponsorship of the American Psychoanalytic Association and the New Center for Psychoanalysis. The American Psychoanalytic Association is accredited by the ACCME to provide continuing medical education for physicians. The American Psychoanalytic Association designates these Live Activities for the maximum of 6 hours of AMA PRA Category 1 Credit(s)™. Physicians should claim only the credit commensurate with the extent of their participation in the activity.



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